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Unofficial votives
« on: August 18, 2013, 10:35:23 AM »
These votives are currently being offered for sale on Ebay and I thought that I would upload them. I have included the sellers description. I believe that these are all unofficial, though they are, for the most part, in good style.




Constantine II Vot XX Trier Hybrid Rare
Obv: CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C
Rev: D N CONSTANTINI MAX AVG (within wreath) VOT / XX
Trier Ric c.

UNLISTED MINTMARK, HYBRID. Obverse TRIER 434 with reverse TRIER 439, except for m.m., unlisted for this rev. type. Note also unusual detail: paludamentum fastened on left shoulder instead of right.

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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2013, 10:36:11 AM »
Constantine II Vot XX Trier Hybrid Rare

Obv: CONSTANTINVS IVN NO C
Rev: D N CONSTANTINI MAX A (within wreath) VOT / XX
Trier Ric c

UNLISTED MINTMARK, HYBRID. Obverse TRIER 433 with reverse TRIER 439, except for m.m., unlisted for this rev. type. Note errors in legends. "NO" instead of "NOB" in obv. legend and "A" instead of "AVG" in rev. legend.

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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2013, 10:36:50 AM »

Constantine II Vot XX Siscia Hybrid Rare
Obv: CONSTANTINVS IVN NOB C
Rev: D N CONSTANTINI MAX AVGG (within wreath) VOT / XX
Siscia Ric c.

UNLISTED BUST TYPE - B4, HYBRID. RIC lists only bust type B1 for Constantine II. Note error in obv. legend: "CA" instead of "C". Reverse similar to SISCIA 180, but with error in legend: "AVGG" (last "G" retrograde) instead of "AVG". Note also rather crude "raising sun" sign in m.m. Apparently an imitative coin.

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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2013, 10:37:25 AM »

Crispus Vot XX Ticinum Hybrid Rare
Obv: CRISPVS - NOB CAE
Rev: DOMINOR NOSTROR CAESS (within wreath) VOT XX
Ticinum Ric 175 c. 32

UNLISTED BUST TYPE AND OBVERSE LEGEND, HYBRID. Bust type and obv. legend not attested for Crispus (p. 381). Specimen might be regarded as a imitative hybrid of unlisted obv. variant and TICINUM 167. Should be listed in footnotes after TICINUM 169.

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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 08:11:07 AM »
The seller just listed some more

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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2014, 03:30:21 PM »
Interesting, I guess that this seller has got a counterfeiter's hoard.
I've just received this one today (not from this seller) with a very strange bust, probably imitating the B3 one and an erroneous reverse legend which does not exist for this mint, see Nota Bene p.380. Just for the anecdote, the Fontaines-Salée Roman site mentioned in this note is located at a few kilometers from the place I live.


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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2014, 03:48:13 PM »
Just for the anecdote, the Fontaines-Salée Roman site mentioned in this note is located at a few kilometers from the place I live.

Sometimes I get a little jealous of Europeans...you guys live near the best sites!


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Re: Unofficial votives
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2014, 11:52:59 AM »
Sure, but what really takes the cake, is that most of Europeans are unaware of the historical wealth they are living near. Anyway,  if you have the opportunity to visit us, rest assured that we, Europeans (aware ones  ;) ), would  be glad to share these sites with you.
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