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Constantine I VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP from London
« on: July 19, 2024, 07:18:18 PM »
Not in RIC or LMCC


 


Constantine I
A.D. 319
19mm   3.3g
CONSTANTINVS P F AVG; radiate and trabeate bust left; raising right hand, left holding globe.
VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP; two Victories stg., facing one another, together holding shield inscribed VOT PR on altar with star in wreath.
In ex. PLN
RIC VII London --; LMCC –

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Re: Constantine I VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP from London
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2024, 07:07:26 PM »
I see fibula on the right arm and folds of drapery, so I would describe this bust as draped and cuirassed.

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Re: Constantine I VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP from London
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2024, 07:37:28 PM »
I would say that all the coins in this series are trabeate.

This coin has the same bust--

 




LMCC has another in this series with the same bust and the authors describe that coin and the one above as trabeate.


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Re: Constantine I VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP from London
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2024, 08:05:57 AM »
Yes, I know that my opinion is against LMCC and also against RIC. But I think that there are some inconsistencies.

You probably will agree that this bust should be described as trabeate (and is described as such in LMCC).


And now, this dress is significantly different, but is also described as trabeate in LMCC)


The same with RIC. For example this bust is marked in RIC as L5 l. (i.e. trabeate)


But I would say with 90 percent confidence that this bust is draped and cuirassed.

And general suggestion from RIC VII is that there is no such thing as bust radiate, with right hand raised, globe in left and additionally draped and cuirassed. The only choice is cuirass and trabea.

Another example from RIC, this time marked L4 l. (i.e. cuirass only)


I believe that LMCC should not omit this "draped and cuirassed" possibility.